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Introducing: Body Grief & Besties

Mik Zazon and Gabby Male

Introducing: Body Grief & Besties

What happens when two best friends get real about the ways their bodies have changed, failed, or surprised them—and how they’ve navigated that loss together? In this brand-new interview series, I’m bringing besties into the rawest, most unfiltered conversations about Body Grief—the pain of feeling betrayed by our bodies, the systems that make it harder to heal, and the love that keeps us going.

These are the healing conversations we all need but rarely have. You’ll find the full series on my Substack and YouTube, with exclusive clips on Instagram in collaboration with each guest.

Order THIS IS BODY GRIEF

Because NO ONE should have to grieve their body alone.


EPISODE 1: Gabby Male & Mik Zazon

We’re kicking off Body Grief & Besties with a deep, emotional, and wildly honest sit-down featuring none other than Gabby Male owner of the Eco friendly upcycled apparel company, Relic 96 and Body image advocate and Mik Zazon, Body Image/ Chronic illness advocate and founder the HealthUndefined App. You know them. You love them. But you’ve NEVER seen them like this.

We got into the gut-wrenching truths about what it means to grieve your body together. The pain of not being believed (Dismissal). The fear of taking up too much space (Apology). The rawest moments of loss—and the joy and radical acceptance that somehow find their way in, too.

There were tears. There was laughter. There were things said out loud for the first time EVER. And through it all? One truth remained: friendship makes grief bearable.

Body Grief is something so many of us experience, yet we’re rarely given the space to talk about it. That’s why I wrote This Is Body Grief—to name the pain, to make sense of the loss, and to remind you that you’re not alone in it. If this conversation resonates, you’ll find even more healing, community, and validation in the book.

Watch the full episode below, and let’s TALK about it in the comments—because your Body Grief is real, and you don’t have to carry it alone.

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